New Chatter and Jabber thread – Starting on December 29
Robert Malone’s new house.
The latest info – medical perspective
Robert Malone and Peter McCullough – interviewed by somebody – good interview.
Here are another bunch of tubes where this is on
Sudhi, here is the link that you wanted.
Malone on Joe Rogan.
This one you have to register.
And I found one on Odysee as well: https://odysee.com/@altmedia96:2/dr-robert-malone-joe-rogan-experience-1093:e
This is a Zerohedge summary of the Joe Rogan / Robert Malone interview.
Get this thing quickly. It is being massively de-platformed. I think this is must-have information and is actually information.
OK, comments: I’ve been through the 3 hours and it was worth the time. The concept of Mass Formation Psychosis is a good concept.
But then they end with China and Social Credit System and all of that nonsense, without having a clue what it is. Geez, cannot even depend on good US Americans to get all their thinking straight – mass formation psychosis indeed. But then again, not everyone can get everything right. The US Americans really have a bug up their ass that every one that is different from them, must be wrong. It makes me sick, but the information part, at least 97% of the video is very worthwhile.
Can you believe it? They’ve just spoken for three hours about the utter depravity in the US medical and scientific and Big Pharma and government circles – but let’s just quickly take part in the propaganda war on China. China is not your problem people. Your own government is.
Saw the interview of Dr. Robert Malone. Sometimes, I question if this isn’t the controlled opposition to Covid mandates. The opposite side being part of the same cohort, so to speak, very much under the control of the greater narrative, in order to lead the world down the garden path.
Let’s not fight the O’Micron
Let it roll, on and on
O’Micron doesn’t bother about no vaccine
It mildly attacks the naturally immune
O’Micron is like a common cold
Have at it, let us get bold
Sneezing, headache, fatigue, sore throat
These symptoms shouldn’t get our goat
If Delta mates with O’Micron
It will become the Demonicon
No point for us to be hyperventilating
When the plandemic is still in making
Ominous-con has gotten in to deep
Why lose our heads in the sweep
I agree with your sentiment. I have similar gestalt. As with Dr Judy Mikovits before. Unfortunately many promoted as opposition leaders are controlled opposition, especially if they appear on Fox or InfoWars or Joe Rogan…
And I think you nailed the solution too – recourse to the traditional or alternative medicines.. We may need to consider Big Pharma unreformable while the AZ Empire lasts – if they lack integrity in vaccines, then most of their other products should give us pause. We have to think outside the western box, where plenty of therapies exist for any condition.
That could very well be a problem for those believe in only allopathy, they are in a Catch 22 situation. Those who go by the traditional systems of medicine may have a different view on how to handle this pandemic. They need not go down various ‘rabbit holes’ which Dr. Malone speaks about. Of course, there are other aspects to this plandemic, which has been used to control people.
I try not to throw anybody away these days. There is so much division, that I just try and find the eddies in the river that speak of some cohesion and some internal principle, like, first do no harm for example.
For us, we follow mainly naturopathic principles. Yet those don’t mind using concepts or even products from TCM, Ayurveda, Homeopathy -kinda from the other less damaging health protocols. I truly like an integrative approach because there is stuff that the allopaths are just very good with – Like broken bones for example. They are good at that, but I still put on some boneset, the herb. And there is stuff that the naturopaths and other alternative paths are just very good at. We’re fortunate to have a grouping of doctors that are open to the alternatives, and we discuss them openly.
For me, we need to get closer to an energetic type of health – where we know the energies and can use them. We have protocols for that but we’re not good at it yet. I did some of the Donna Eden energy medicine courses and for some things, it is excellent – you basically have your hands and energy and if you can learn how to use it, it can be used effectively. But this starts emotionally.
The horrible thing about all this is of course using a health condition for political and control purposes. It works for me to see these two as separate because otherwise, I lose it in my thinking. I don’t think it can survive anyway, the political control. I see as much lying and propaganda coming from the anti side, than from the .gov side. I check a telegram news aggregator group from the ‘Covid Red Pill’ societies regularly. They outright lie! And will use anything to win a political fight. And will turn on a dime and tear apart even their own if their own asks questions. It is equally bad on both sides.
There is nothing there for me. I have to seek out the little space of calmness and it is very little these days.
OK, it is bad form to quote oneself .. but what I wrote just a bit ago, is coming true in front of our eyes.
I see as much lying and propaganda coming from the anti side, than from the .gov side. I check a telegram news aggregator group from the ‘Covid Red Pill’ societies regularly. They outright lie! And will use anything to win a political fight. And will turn on a dime and tear apart even their own if their own asks questions. It is equally bad on both sides.
Malone is being torn to shreds, just because he speaks of the medical model, which is a valid health model we have in our world. It exists. It’s pretty mucky these days, but it exists.
And because he does not scream on the top of his lungs that ‘we are being genocided’, the alts are excoriating him.
Well, let me tell you who is being genocided. The people in the Gaza strip and the West Bank. Those in Yemen. Currently with witholding their money, those in Afghanistan. Within certain limitations of the legal structures around the word ‘genocide’, the white South Africans. And then a few more hot spots around the world. Donetsk People’s Republic and Lugansk People’s Republic.
Those are the areas of genocide.
The western screamers do not impress me at all because they want to fight their political fight under the guise of a health issue, as much as what the .govs want to use this self-same health issue to institute draconian controls.
Nobody is discussing what Malone just brought to the table. They are not discussing for example the phonecall of Biden himself with Modi, suppressing the way in which Utter Pradesh in India just owned Covid with a flat line death rate. They are not discussing the suppression of repurposed drugs. They are killing Malone. Just as I said – If you don’t sing their song, then they will turn on a dime and tear apart even their own if their own asks questions or if their own dares to go off-script, even if well experienced in practice and education to do so.
This is tyranny and tyranny does not get taken down by tyranny. Effing tyrants! I do not concede my right to make up my own mind. This is the majority of the population that will bring about fascism if one is not allowed to think for yourself.
Recently there has been a propaganda against traditional or natural medicines. It is clear that everything is organized in favour of multinational drug, food and chemical companies.
For most allopathic doctors the patient is just a number, who must be content to do as he is told, to swallow the pills that he has been prescribed and never to discuss what is good for him or not. Dr Thierry Janssen, a urological surgeon writes : “Doctors steeped in materialistic science tend to focus only on the details. They think they can treat a problem by acting on an abnormal parameter, but in doing so, they neglect the repercussions of their treatment on the rest of the body. This lack of overview leads to overconsumption of examinations and drugs.” This is how millions of patients are given sleeping pills that disrupt sleep, anti-inflammatory drugs that cause heart problems, osteoporosis drugs that make holes in bones, antidepressants that make suicidal thoughts, etc.
The latest scientific studies show is that in a multitude of pathologies, the natural approach must be considered as the first of all medicines, the traditional medicines are the true elite medicines. While not denying the importance of allopathy, but as per Dr. Andrew Weill, allopathic medicine is only necessary ” in 10 to 20% of health problems, for the remaining 80 to 90%, natural methods are more effective, because they work in concert with the body’s healing mechanisms instead of weakening them.”
According to a health analyst from Goldman Sachs, “Cures that heal immediately offer a very different pattern of recurring cash flow from chronic therapies. These remedies would be of tremendous benefit to patients and society, but could be an obstacle for those seeking sustainable financial cash flow. The recovery of patients also reduces the number of carriers capable of transmitting the virus to new patients, and thus, the incidence of incidence is also declining … ”
Which is exactly what Dr Malone said, when talking about financial incentives to Hospitals for false positives and Covid deaths. Modern medicine has been reduced to a cash flow problem. What modern allopathy seeks is to do is to keep a patient on lifelong prescriptions for drugs that “reduce” or “relieve” pain, osteoarthritis, diabetes, hypertension etc, but will never cure. And of course there is no question of recognizing the power of natural (and often free) or traditional treatments which cure the most serious diseases for good.
In France Révolution Santé (Health Revolution) has been launched by doctors and a journalist, which uses all the resources at its disposal to give the patient the best chance of being cured : nutritherapy, phytotherapy (medicinal plants), aromatherapy (essential oils), osteopathy, sophrology, homeopathy, energy approaches, meditation, stress management, etc; a union of traditional medicine and the most advanced scientific research.
Link to its website -https://www.directe-sante.com/revolution-sante/
Ivermectin was first used by doctors in Bangladesh during the first wave, it was extensively used by doctors not only in U.P. but also in Delhi and elsewhere in India right up to July, 2021, when it’s usage was withdrawn by a curious notification upon the advice of Dr. Soumya Swaminathan from the WHO. Regarding the deal between Biden and Modi, as mentioned by Dr. Robert Malone, not much information is there. However, the response to the plandemic is getting curious and curiouser, to say the least. Now that Omicron variant has come to India, children from ages 15-18 are being recommended vaccines’, we well know where that will lead to, its been well explained by Dr. Malone.
This is a follow-up Malone interview on Alex Jones.
I have not watched this. My thoughts are busy with Sudhi’s comment on whether this whole movement could be controlled opposition.
For this, please do your own due diligence and research. This is an extension from the very original protocol that some of us came up with, right in the beginning of this outbreak. Of course it has developed massively over the past two years. It is from a group that calls itself World Council for Health. I do not subscribe to them and stand independent from them. I don’t know them and cannot say anything. But about the protocol I am in agreement with those that say very early treatment and for this, I like their presentation. This is also in line with the 3 clinics that I have contact with.
Please do your own diligence. This is not a menu, but is a full protocol.
Should not have posted that “damage control” comment on the cafe yesterday. For that I apologize . It pushes the rules that are in place and ‘invites’ people who brake them.
I have had trouble posting links here on this chatter thread. Must figure out how it works. Will ask my son-in-law for help next time he’s over.
Thanks for all the great links put here and all the valuable info amarynth.
John Pilger’s good rule is; ‘if something has been officially denied – it’s probably true’
I have to say that I trust what Robert Kennedy Jr. has to say over a lot of other people. Can’t wait to read his book. Have ordered it.
Not to worry Siljan. That fellow is a long-standing troll who came back again. He always picks an ‘innocent’ to try and ride on. That little episode allowed me to identify him yet again.
To add a link .. look at your small icon menu just above the post window. It starts with B for bold and I for italics. The last icon in the menu is for adding a picture (which is not functional – too easy to spam – anyone can send me a pic to add) but the 2nd last one is a chainlink. Click on that, add your link and it will be live. Or, alternatively, simply copy and paste your link and it will work like that. If not highlight the link and click on the chainlink.
A friend sent this (filed under people sent me stuff 🙂
It is about the possibility of court cases and so on and has all the names involved in that initiative. I do not follow this at all, so, you’re on your own, and please do your own diligence.
Hilarious Canadian spoof of Pfizer and its business model.
NB: in German, Shit = Scheisse, so Schizer sounds just like that with adding “r” at the end.
The whole Veritas leak .. I have not followed it, so this is all I have.
If you remember from Malone’s previous speech somewhere, I think it may have been Joe Rogan but I am not sure, he said that there was agreement (Biden/Modi) not to make public the medicines used in Utter Pradesh, India. So now someone took a photo of just what exactly is inside the little bag of medicines.
Here it is:
But now the thing is for me, why is it in English? And does India use a 1800 telephone code system?
Anyway, here is the Malone writeup:
English remains one of India’s official languages, even since Independence – never quite phased out as originally planned.
The 800 code is a toll-free #, like in USA.. Many countries follow this convention for toll-free just like the USA. The company contracted for these Indian covid packages, Wellness Forever Medicare Pvt Ltd, has its headquarters in Mumbai.
But their package is so sensible eh? Imagine the status of covid now, if all countries used this same approach ..
Interesting view on “Covid-19” and the global tepid war between the Empire and Russia/China:
Denis Rancourt: COVID19 is a War Measure for Population Control in Shadow of US-China Conflict
Thanks so much! Fascinating discussion.
I totally agree with his thoughts on the rationale for injections and masking. It is a ritual for submission. Has nothing to do with health. It is like Pavlov training his dogs. It breaks humans, subconsciously, which is sad.
And that public protests without a purpose for serious change, rather than empty posturing on weekends, are unhelpful and actually counterproductive. As Jefferson said, “We need a revolution every 20 years just to keep government honest.” But we are ahistorical in this age, and do not know our true power..
Interesting point I learned – through his careful tracking of all-cause mortality for Ontario province, he was able to confirm what we suspected before (and via small studies) – that “covid precautionary measures” such as isolation, lockdowns, social distancing, masking, closing of social gathering points like restaurants/bars, etc.. were directly linked to increased mortality! When Ontario stopped these measures in May 2021, the metrics improved. This is shocking confirmation that the measures are actually harmful, the opposite of stated objectives. And this is likely deliberate given the psychopaths in charge of WHO and the West.
Some disagreement: a classic pandemic did not occur, yes. However it can be argued a hybrid-pandemic did occur. Remember their expertise is in hybrid-warfare, and IMO they adopted this model for covid.
(1) it was biowarfare for selected key enemy targets, especially (A) Iran (recall 2 regions in Feb-Mar 2020 hit with 2 different strains, and affecting large # of their parliamentarians and leaders which died), (B) Italy (affecting Milan area Chinatown factories which was key to Italian industry, and to punish their cooperation with China), and (C) USA (the accelerated killing of elders in nursing homes, such as in Cuomo’s NY State, and in hospitals through criminal enforced intubations/toxic regimens, for purpose of erasing our communal “living libraries and memorybanks” as well as supporting the insurance part of FIRE and lowering pressure on medicare and retirement payments). This probably occurred in several others such as Russia and China, with which I am not familiar. And some countries may be understating true casualty numbers so as not to provike a hot war on the time-table of the enemy. So published stats are not reliable – some overcount, and some undercount.
(2) for much of the remainder of the world it appears it was a “pandemic of positive cases.” As documented by many, including RFK Jr., the CDC and WHO ordered the PCR cycle counts be raised above 35, where it was guaranteed to be (+) with false positivity (FP) of over 97%! So even fruit and goat samples in Tanzania tested positive. And now, even more criminally, they ordered those who were vaccinated to have the lower cycle counts, to remove the FP, and make the vaccines look effective. Another PCR shenanigan was the nonspecificity of the reference antigen – so that it did not differentiate among coronaviruses and the SARS-CoV-2. So it was positive whether you had the usual flu, this covid, or nothing at all! And many more tricks – ie. statistically, so that no flu occured in 2020 and 2021! All cases were counted in the Excel column for covid.
So in spite of the shenanigans of (2) above, and in partial agreement with the premise that “COVID19 is a War Measure for Population Control in Shadow of US-China Conflict,” it is important not to lose sight of what occurred in (1) and the potential for more BW, until the Empire is finally slayed or totally collapsed..
Dr. Rancourt sees US-China conflict will last at least a decade. This is way too optimistic. According to US planners, they must overcome China by 2025 if they want to remain dominant.. so they would pull trigger before then. And the quasi-merger with Russia is considerably speeding up the tempo, especially in setting of Russia’s current high-tension policy. I think if we can avoid major war, this conflict will be decided within next 1-2 years, maybe within a few months if the crazies proceed with the controlled-demolition of the West.
Interesting he doesn’t discuss several elephants in the room – various other possible purposes behind injections (depop, tracking, mind-control, gene modification…) confirmed by other researchers, the Banksters pulling strings (the level above corporations), and the terminal ideologies of Zionism and Liberalism and their messianic weltanschauung of Hegemony. In fact he ignores the dominant moral level and says technocrats are mere careerists obeying orders. What about evil and ill will? Not all are drones following orders.. He reduces it to a simplistic binary of East-West or US-China operating under mass psychosis; its much more complicated than that.. It could be due to fear though, he does admit he is pulling punches towards the end, as he lives in Canada, and this is understandable given the regime in power currently.
Thank you for this very intersting feedback. I agree that Dr. Rancourt adds very valuable points to the discussion but that his viewpoint seems a bit simplistic. But I think his analysis of Covid and the Covid “measurs” as a tool used in the war for global domination adds valuable ideas.
As with all conspiracies or deep events, we just do not know everything, in fact our knowledge is pretty limited and on somewhat shaky grounds. And there are many different aspects, many possible causal connection, many different opinions. I think is important to collect those opinions and keep them at hand as possible explanations for parts of the picture.
Personally, I am very unsure of what SARS-CoV-2 and Covid-19 really are. But, contrary to Dr. Rancourt, I think that there exists a very particular new disease, that occationally causes some severe effects and with some pretty particular symptoms, e.g. total loss of taste and smell. Also the immune reaction and the cardiac effects of the “spike protein” seems to be a real and particular thing.
And since I assume that there is a particular disease, I am inclined to think that there are some new and possibly engineered agents that causes of at least helps cause the disease.
And, interestingly, there seem to exist very good, already established and easily available remedies against the disease that IMHO are actively suppressed and sabotaged by politicians, medical agencies, and the press. That is another aspect omitted in Dr. Rancourt’s view, as far as I can see.
And, I agree with you, there are additional possible motives for the use of such agents, and the actions of the Covid perpetrators. I could also imagine that there are multiple somewhat separate groups of perpetrators, each with their own set of motives.
On the other hand I am also very critical of some aspects of virus theory. I am not an expert in this field, though. But as a somewhat scientifically educated person I find it baffling that it seems not to be possible to purify and truly isolate the alleged agent “SARS-CoV-2”, i.e. a virus, directly from samples from patients. The only method used by mainstream virology seems to be cultivating a sample in some strange set of cells in some strange solution, and then “sequencing” the genetic information found in that mixture. I am very sceptical about this method.
So maybe there is something that makes some people sick in a new way, and maybe this something has been created in a lab, but we do not really know what the mechanism of action is. Who knows.
Anyway, personally, I also strongly advise to take the whole thing seriously and follow the discussion about prophylaxis and early treatment. I do take vitamin D regularly, and I keep zinc, vitamin c and quercitin ready, just in case.
I also consider the reports of doctors who treat Covid patients and have direct in person experience with the disease very important information, and find people like for example Dr. Kory (FLCCC), Dr. Zelenko, and Dr. McCullough highly credible.
But, as said, the angle of Dr. Rancourt on Covid and its function in global politics / geopolitics is very interesting and I consider his view regarding the false “death with positive test” numbers and the negative effect of the “measures” as very important information.
Thanks, I agree Paul. I am not dismissing Dr. Rancourt at all. I appreciate him.
My take home from Dr. Rancourt was his expertise in stats for 2020 (2021 is VERY different, more later as stats fully come out), and explaining Geopolitics in a nice way – esp. the psychology of the psychopaths – why they do the precautionary measures (to break us) and what the end destination is (a totalitarian techno-fascism). Each expert contributes something. Remember he is not a medical doctor – but a physicist and researcher. He did not aim to delve into the vaccine or biology of the [virus] – assuming it is a single thing, versus a combination of toxins, chemicals, biologics, etc.. I am leaning towards the latter, but it is a mere guess.
He stuck to his strengths and helped fill in a piece of the puzzle. Medical doctors bring something else. Politicians others. Religious leaders another angle. Economists more, etc.. Together, we build an understanding of the horrifying global conspiracy, decades in the making.
We are enveloped in a whirlwind of disinformation, the silence of major powers who are keeping quiet for operational security and their own reasons, and our own limited means.
At essence, this covid era is a test – a spiritual trial and tribulation. And forcing each to take a side – for or against Truth, with or without Integrity, for example.
The biggest current hurdle appears to be Fear of Death. Can we overcome it? If yes, and it takes faith, then we need not fear anything. I see the same demonic forces behind the covid narrative that are waging war against Zone B; their traditional tool has always been to amplify Fear of whatever we fear in order to weaken and control us. For my part, once I calmed down in Spring of 2020 after taking stock, and remembering I dislike this corrupted world anyway, and death is a relief of the toils and prison of this world for believers, then the Fear left me. I was able to get on with my life.
So Pray, take your sensible precautions, such as vitamins (I took monthly vit D for years, since as a professional usually working indoors during daylight hours I developed deficiency), wholesome food, exercise, fast, give alms and support the many impoverished around you now, spend some of your time on positivity and good thoughts, and other lifestyle habits to lower stress.. and the Lord will take care of the rest. Otherwise it is too much what is going on, that will crush us. One day at a time. This is the time to withdraw somewhat from a wider society going mad, and to focus on the inner world and family.
Countries now going in completely different directions. This will cause more chaos really.
GB – Boris (saving his own butt) has called off all Covid measures – everything as far as I can see. Others are following .. I don’t know the whole of Ireland or just part and I saw another one somewhere – the Czech Republic.
We just wrote off all traveling across borders – this thing will stabilize sometime.
Yeah, I’ve seen hyenas – not my favorite animal.
A.H.H., did you see these horrifying transplants now with pig kidneys? There was one with a pig heart as well. I always expect these from China, as they truly have a different view on these things, but these two are both in the US.
Modern Medicine “Game-Changer”: Genetically Altered Pig Kidneys Transplanted Into Brain-Dead Human
The first transplant of its kind has been successfully performed according to the University of Alabama at the Birmingham School of Medicine.
The kidneys were taken from pigs that had been genetically modified with 10 key gene edits that made the organs suitable for humans. The kidneys remained functional for 77 hours after the operation, – the entire length of the study.
The school’s director called it a“game-changing moment in the history of medicine … and a major milestone” in xenotransplantation. It’s “arguably the best solution to the organ shortage crisis.”
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Yes, I saw the UK calling off covid measures.
I do not follow UK closely, so do not know whether it is political trick to save Boris, or something else..
I knew the Scandinavian countries largely stopped covid measures over a month ago? And Japan before that I think. Of course not mentioned much in 5 eyes MSM..
It may not be Boris-saving only. There is fatigue everywhere with the nonsense. Mercouris mentioned last week it was largely being ignored in UK, so it may be face-saving measure since folks already ignore mandates. They do have to take some steps back at times. And I gather Boris’ Tories are in no risk of being overtaken by hapless Liberals?
So it may be a change of narrative too.
I actually have nothing against hyenas – they live according to their nature. In the past I enjoyed watching nice YT videos of them by a big-game African conservationist called The Lion Whisperer, on their habitat in Africa.. However Mr. Gates will go down in human history for going against our nature and code.. But he is just another sock-puppet for Mr. Global. The Truth will out eventually.
I saw headlines of the pig transplant. I no longer have heart to read these stories. Nothing surprises me since the sheep named Dolly.. Little boys playing in their labs and playing god.
I have been busy, I meant to respond to your last long message on MFC but am still gathering my thoughts. I agree the fat lady may be singing. It is dizzying trying to keep up
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